However, I’m simply pointing out that this image says that they contribute NOTHING to society. Nothing? Really? Nothing? Absolutely nothing at all? There’s not one good thing that they do at all?

The things that they’re doing aren’t “bad” things, they may unoriginal ideas, sure, but that doesn’t mean that their heart isn’t in a good place.

Regardless of whether or not they started it, claim to have started it, or not…they’re contributors to causes a lot of people don’t care about, but probably should. In no way shape or form did I ever state that they were creators of these concepts, but merely contributors to them.

I feel that many of you might be drawing from biased opinions of hipsters, which is fine, because like Jesse said, we draw from our own experiences…

I guess I just ask you to rethink your thoughts. Because to truly think that other human beings that think and are different than us regardless of class, culture, mindset, etc; truly contribute nothing positive to this world is very alarming to me that you would think this.

And no, Victor, I am not bitter about my lot in life. I am quite blessed to live the life I live! Ask Miles, I am a very happy person, albeit sassy and opinionated from time to time.

I wonder why people find my remarks so “biased” and “ignorant”? Could it possibly be because they don’t align with your own? I I have a lot of respect for Miles, and I don’t recall ever saying he was ignorant. However, is he biased? Sure. Am I biased? Of course. That’s human nature, we draw on our life experiences to form opinions. But am I ignorant, absolutely not.

Josh – I am not wallowing in this generations problems, so stop being so hyperbolic. Comparing contemporary politics/society to 200yrs ago and saying that we are better off now is easy but I don’t believe in relativism. The world is a messed up place TODAY, so instead of fixating on the past – you might even say wallowing – I am concerned about where the world is going in the future.

Is there therefore anyone who is truly an independent, free thinker then? Don’t we all conform? Don’t we all consider ourselves part of some kind of group? Are not all of us exhibiting and maybe even reinforcing one stereotype or another?

No man is an island as someone once said. This can mean a myriad of things depending on the context. But are not all men influenced by one another (both those who came before, and those who are around us now)? And aren’t we going to gravitate toward others who share our same beliefs and values? There is strength in numbers, and comfort in what is familiar and understood. This does not mean that no one can think for themselves. This does not mean that people who identify with groups are shallow hypocrites.

Or maybe it does mean this.

But in that case, NO ONE is an independent thinker.

So if we call hipsters misguided hypocrites, then we should call ourselves that as well.

Well said, Jesse!

Maybe I am just being defensive because I am a scenester who takes offense to this, but let me guess Jesse Lee:

You are struggling to hold down a job, jealous because you have massive loans you can’t pay off, frustrated with your lot in life, and are in turn finding external factors to blame for your hardships and misfortunes? The problem isn’t me, its my generation…

Am I right? Or am I right?